The Internet rectification campaign has been going on for more than a month. For more than a month, no immediate results have been seen. Instead, many innocent websites were involved and had no choice but to be shut down. The severe crackdown on the Internet for more than a month has caused many grassroots webmasters to face unemployment, their websites have been shut down, they have lost their main source of income, and their lives are in dire straits, waiting every day for policy improvements.
The A5 forum bbs.admin5.com organized a chat event on December 25, inviting an Internet police officer and several grassroots webmasters to discuss the topic of "how grassroots webmasters can survive and develop in adversity." This article sorted out the main doubts of grassroots webmasters and many problems with their current living conditions, hoping to attract the attention of relevant departments and gain more media and policy support.
Question 1: Pornography on mobile phones and pornography on websites are subject to state rectification and strong support from grassroots webmasters. Why are those of us who run regular websites also implicated now? Can the relevant departments explain this reason?
Question 2: After a period of time after the Internet crackdown, the websites that really violated the rules are still operating, while many legitimate websites have been shut down for no reason. Have the relevant departments considered this phenomenon in advance?
Question 3: "A total of 102 cases of online infringement and piracy were investigated and dealt with in the province, 102 websites were closed, 14 servers and other equipment were confiscated, and a fine of 414,000 yuan was imposed." But how many 102 websites were implicated? How many losses were there? 414,000 yuan? I wonder if you have calculated it?
Question 4: I want to know whether the special filing for BBS will be enforced? 1. 1 million. Among the existing individual webmasters, 99% cannot afford it. Small and medium-sized webmasters are just like ordinary employees. , an income of one to two thousand yuan per month. 2. Don’t talk about politics, don’t post any illegal posts, just a group of people with common interests and hobbies communicating with each other. Isn’t this okay?
Question 5: Who will be responsible for the losses of grassroots webmasters caused by the "one size fits all" network blocking behavior? How to solve the problem of webmaster unemployment? Will individual webmasters be unable to run websites in the future? Thousands of people are involved in this anti-pornography campaign Regular personal websites and small and medium-sized enterprise websites have been innocently implicated. Will anyone stand up and take responsibility for the losses they have suffered?
Question 6: Everyone knows the current situation of the Internet. Many webmasters who have been innocently affected have transferred their domain names, servers, etc. to foreign countries. Can this approach solve the problem?
Question 7: The domain name of one of my websites involves "online audio-visual content", and the domain name was closed by the Beijing Internet Supervision. Is there any way to unblock it? There is no chance to change the content.
Question 8: Due to the access of Anhui Yanhuang network to 9158.com, the websites of tens of thousands of ordinary webmasters were shut down. However, 9158.com is still at large. In this regard, how does the Jiangsu Internet Police view the Anhui Internet Police?
Question 9: What kind of website is judged as a body art website, and what kind of website is judged as a gender website? Does the relevant department have a specific standard?
Question 10: What do you personally think of this Internet rectification campaign? What is the ratio of closure of illegal sites to closure of small websites that are serious about their websites? In addition, I would like to ask what the legal consequences are for casually trampling on other people's labor results. Is it illegal to do so?
Question 11: Various websites are also rectifying the vulgarity trend, but many vulgarities have no clear boundaries. Are vulgar keywords included in the crackdown? For example, in the interactive area of the website, a netizen posted, "Passionate video goes to a certain link www.xxx.com ". Is this considered vulgar?
Question 12: Nowadays, there are more network attacks, such as ddos cc. If this type of attack is attacked, how to report it in time? To which agencies can the report be accepted?
Question 13: It costs 1 million to build an e-commerce website, and the entire forum also costs 1 million. The country has been strongly calling on everyone to start a business to create employment through entrepreneurship. However, such 1 million is not enough for a working webmaster. As a webmaster, how can we enter the road of Internet entrepreneurship? We want to help the country reduce the burden, but there is nothing we can do and we are discouraged.
Question 14: How to determine what is illegal information? For example, why is "24-port switch" illegal? Is it engaging in text inquisition?
Question 15: Does the government’s crackdown on the Internet this time only target all websites with illegal information? Recently I heard that some formal forums will also be closed. So what can formal forums do to avoid being closed?
Question 16: For local forums run by individuals, since they are individuals, what is their outlet? If according to the policy, registered companies with a capacity of 1 million must apply for special registration, then wouldn’t they have no hope of survival?
Question 17: Why are many pornographic websites accessible, but many websites with no pornographic content are closed? Some large portals have pornographic information, so it’s fine. If you look carefully, even People’s Daily Online may have vulgar content. The standards for this seizure have made people increasingly confused about the situation. Can the relevant departments explain in detail the boundaries of the investigation and punishment?
Question 18: Currently, what types of websites are not blocked by the state? Please ask relevant departments to give grassroots webmasters a way out!
Question 19: According to the current policy, does a website with a message board or a form count as an interactive website? Is it necessary to register a company with 1 million and obtain an ICP certificate for business purposes?
Question 20: Can you elaborate on what grassroots webmasters can do under the current circumstances to avoid breaking the law?
Question 21: To be honest, everyone, I think this month is just a small test. The country really wants to transform the Internet environment to adapt to socialism, so it will not care about personal webmasters who disappear without any harm. And it is true that most pornographic websites or other illegal websites are also the products of individual webmasters. It's probably pointless for us to discuss this. It feels like this month is just the beginning of the storm.
Question 22: At present, our regular websites are blocked. Who will buy these orders? Who will compensate for our losses! Since the country promotes individual entrepreneurship, why does it not strongly support it? Some websites are illegal. Why must the entire computer room be blocked? Is this fair to us?
Question 23: What do you think of the "online text jail" phenomenon in the process of Internet regulation? What should I do if I find so-called "illegal keywords" and take them out of context and casually say that other people's information is illegal? Block their servers. You must know that some webmasters will suffer great losses if their servers are blocked once. When my server was blocked in Jiangxi province, all the data of more than ten websites included in the Baidu search engine were cleared by Baidu within five days. It was all due to hard work. It took a long time for content to be recognized by search engines. Now more than 80 to 90 percent of website traffic relies on search engines. To recover, it will take a long time to update and maintain the content and external links. It is usually blocked for one day. If the website is updated with search engines, it will have a huge impact.
There are too many situations like this. Some webmaster friends are more typical. A person who sells children's diapers said that after using it, the children's skin feels refreshed and the tablets are installed... As a result, the network law enforcement officers blocked the server for "shuang + tablets" It has to be deleted, otherwise the server will not open. A friend’s joke about Bush and Bin Laden was also said to be illegal. On my website, there is a small recipe for using longan meat to treat stomach problems written by Mr. Nan Huaijin. There is a paragraph in it that says, “In the past, some people ate opium. "The government has banned smoking. If you are caught, you will be locked up, so you dare not smoke." It is also illegal to say "you will be caught for eating opium" and the server must be deleted. A friend's server was blocked just last night. It turned out that it was because of Huang Jianxiang's passionate football commentary. That is to say, Huang Jianxiang was very excited when commenting on the live broadcast of football. The server also had to be blocked. There were also some webmaster friends who were The DEDECMS official forum said that its DEDECMS article system was actually called a forum by the management department and was required to be deleted. This is so devoid of common sense that it makes people laugh.
My regular website has been accused of being illegal and the server has been shut down at least 10 times a year, and the content does not involve pornography, gambling, drugs or other illegal content at all. They are just jokes, common sense about treating stomach problems, registration for life release, Buddhism Music and other types of music, I don’t know which law will be punished for violating it? The issue of illegality is not something that can be blamed on others casually. This extremely irresponsible and barbaric law enforcement behavior that makes everyone dumbfounded and what exactly is illegal information? I don’t know if it is related What does the department think?
Question 24: We want to make a regular website and abide by the rules, but the relevant departments have not given rules. How can we, as personal webmasters, abide by them? Internet entrepreneurship has now become a career for many young people, who regard the Internet as a career. !With so many thresholds and requirements, it has become a big problem, especially in the fight against pornography and obscenity. Many normal websites are also implicated! This will cause serious damage to the careers of many young people, and this problem affects the entire industry. chain. Is there a clear standard for the harm of illegal information and the healthy development of the Internet?
Question 25: Nowadays, many college students cannot find jobs and want to start an online business, especially starting with websites and online stores. From which departments can I find some supporting policies or information for Internet entrepreneurship? Just like the small self-employed and laid-off workers in the past looking for some tax-free or low-rent office environments provided by the government.
Question 26: Why do you think this rectification has political overtones? We small webmasters have no power, no money, and no one, so we should just accept it. Big websites like Baidu, which have money and backing, can ignore whether there is pornography. ?At this time, at 15:26, I searched for relevant keywords on Baidu, and pornographic content also came up. How should China’s democracy, freedom, and human rights be reflected?
Question 27: We have no right to interfere with the computer room of the server. We don’t know what website they put on it. The computer room should be punished for this. Some websites have several gigabytes of data disappearing instantly. That’s how many years they have Their hard work? The state has wiped them out with just one word. Have you considered this for small and medium-sized webmasters? They have no money and just rely on their websites to maintain a meager income. Now all their income has been cut off at once. Does the state have any consideration? For the sake of these people?
Question 28: No matter how service-minded IDC is, there is nothing he can do if his superiors cut off the network cable in his computer room. The problem is that the network in the computer room is cut off, causing immeasurable losses to thousands of customers. Who should be responsible for this? Woolen cloth?
Question 29: Foreign policies will definitely not be like those of the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, which change every three days. Foreign countries have laws to follow, and can they disconnect the Internet at will? It is estimated that only we will have disconnections. This is a Chinese characteristic, right? Do we want to run away? Foreign space FTP is slow, and access speed is not as good as domestic. If the domestic environment is good, who is willing to run away? Who doesn’t want to make a website bigger and stronger?
Question 30: Does the country have relevant laws in place now? One-size-fits-all harms the interests of normal websites. Who should bear these losses, and who will safeguard the legitimate interests of small and medium-sized webmasters?
Question 31: The country is governed by law, but do the relevant departments comply with the law when enforcing the law? Even if there is a problem with the website, there is no reason to close it. Where are the legal documents? The documents issued by CNNIC are not legally binding at all!
Question 32: They are a company, they have venture capital, they have connections, and they have a huge user base. What about you? What do you have? Closing those big sites will cause heated discussions in society, but what about closing yours? What impact will it have? Apart from farting alone, what impact will it have? The social impact does not exist at all, so individual webmasters can only suffer.
Question 33: Why check illegal information not one by one but across the board? Does checking a website require shutting down the entire computer room? Why is this!
Question 34: I especially want to express my views on the registration issue. It is really difficult to register domain names now. The most difficult thing is to wait for 20 days (working days). Once the domain name cannot be passed, or the Information Management Bureau If the staff is unhappy, they will return the information to you, and then you have to wait for another 20 days! I personally think that the current domain name registration system is no longer suitable for the current environment. I would like to know if there is any possibility of updating relevant functions of the domain name registration system in the past year. ?
Question 35: Three days on the Internet can determine the life or death of a small website. Three or five days after the website is closed, the website will be dead. Baidu K Station will lose all traffic. What is the use of appealing? It is a waste of time and money. Rather than being angry with the relevant departments like this, it is better to make a new one. ,
Question 36: If the forum is deleted, the novel is deleted, and the movie is deleted, what else can we do? What else can we do?
Question 37: My website has just moved to the United States. A domestic local station, a group of people in a small county town. Nothing to do but chat, party, and do some charity activities. Just because this site is in the form of a forum, it has no place in China.
Question 38: Most website operators understand the relevant laws and do not operate illegal websites, but tens of thousands of websites are still closed down. Computer rooms in many areas will be closed down as long as they have guestbooks, forums, and blogs. What's the use of knowing the law?
Question 39: The website is the virtual property of the webmaster. It has been suspended for a week without any reason, and Baidu has dropped all indexes. Who pays for the loss? The Constitution stipulates that citizens’ legal private property is protected by law. It has been proven that there is no illegal information, but it has been unable to be opened. Kill Lian. A server containing illegal information appeared in a computer room, and the entire computer room was cut off. Pornographic information is not closed and involves political keywords. Force shutdown without notification.
Question 40: There are two ways out. If your website continues to stay in China, close comments or switch to another website management system; the second way out is to directly switch to a foreign space.
Question 41: There is only one pornographic forum that I know of, and I can still open it now. What do the two unrelated things you know mean? Could it be that you didn’t see A5, Laochao, and Chinaz crying all over the place? Could it be that they are all doing illegal things?
Question 42: If I want to set up a local tourism website and decoration website, can I have an ICP certificate after registration? No other certificates are required?
Question 43: I think the Ministry of Industry and Information Technology should create a website to display illegal websites that have been investigated and dealt with, and force all domestic computers to set this website as the IE homepage. Once opened, you can see what illegal websites are, so that netizens will You don’t need to go to that website anymore. It also gives individual webmasters who create websites a reference purpose, and they will know what kind of content is illegal in the future. I will never create an illegal website again. I think this makes sense!
Question 44: Based on the current service efficiency, how many years and months will it take to clean up the illegal information? When you find that the day the website is reopened, your website can no longer be found in the engine. For an individual webmaster, how much value does this website have? What is worth remembering is just the hard work you put into building the website in the early days!
Question 45: First, whoever is found to be illegal will be shut down, so that no one can say anything; now it is closed regardless of whether it is illegal or not. Even if a website cannot find any faults, it will take several days to be opened again, and the website Do you know how much damage will be caused by being shut down for a few days? Most of the interactive forums and SNS will be gone, and they will not be able to recover for a few months. Will anyone be responsible for this loss? For example, if we suspect someone If there are corrupt elements in the department, can we arrest and lock up everyone in the department, including the gatekeepers, for a few months, and then release those who are not corrupt? Second, even if there are pictures of women in swimsuits, they will be judged as related. Huang, the server of my website was shut down because a member uploaded a beautiful woman in a swimsuit. I had no choice but to transfer the data abroad.
Question 46: Do you believe in the law? My official website and server were hacked and my data was deleted. After I went to the police, the local police station, Internet surveillance, brigade, and detachment were all like kicking a ball without any response. Finally, after applying pressure through certain methods, the case was filed. But there has been no news for a long time. You must know that the criminal suspects confessed in private and were willing to be arrested, but there were no police to arrest them. How can people trust the law?
I am severely punished and my official website is shut down without asking any questions. Does this mean that people can trust the law? I don’t know who organized such an event. In fact, it is meaningless at all. As an ordinary police officer, you can’t On behalf of the imperial court, we shoulder the accountability of so many grassroots webmasters. Such accountability only exists in democratic countries with a truly sound legal system, and the subjects of accountability are leaders. Our country, as grassroots people or Internet mobs, None of us have this power. I only know that police officer you are embarrassed and helpless at this moment and your words are pale. It is not your fault. None of this is your responsibility.
Question 47: I have made three regular websites, one is for women, one is about opposing pornographic websites, and one is about love. Are these three websites all related to pornography? Why are they all closed? Where is my website? Everyone has the responsibility to crack down on pornographic websites, but while the police comrades are cracking down on pornographic websites, they are unlikely to kill our regular websites. Comparatively, the ratio of regular websites to pornographic websites is far more than one in a thousand, at least in China. However, many regular websites have also been deleted. Why?
Question 48: My speech is not directed at individual police officers. I believe everyone is questioning the current system. Officer Yu set a national precedent on behalf of the government and communicated face-to-face with grassroots webmasters in the forum. No matter how many questions he answered head-on, it was already commendable. Officer Yu said it well in a post. Webmasters should also be good at participating in politics and seizing any opportunity they can. Don't imagine that someone will speak for you at critical moments. The only one who can really speak for you is yourself. Including this interactive interview, webmasters should not be pessimistic and think that what you say is in vain. If you tell your reasons and one person agrees with them, you have not said in vain. Maybe the webmasters as a group lack your strength. .
Question 49: Internet police, I don’t want to say anything! There are too many innocent victims implicated in this reform. Is it necessarily wrong to open a forum? As long as there is no illegal content, we should be supported in doing so. Of course, you are blocking illegal websites this time. If you want to check, you have to prescribe the right medicine. How many regular IDC companies sell foreign servers secretly, and how many illegal websites in China are bought from them. If you want to check, you should go to "Baidu" and "IDC" Baidu. I think he knows very well how many illegal websites there are in China.
Question 50: Thank you very much, Officer Yu, for being here today to interact with the webmasters. I can understand your position. What you said can only be official words repeated over and over again and quoted over and over again. What I want to say is that in front of officials, the law is nothing! Everyone knows the situation and I don’t need to say more. We are very passive, and it seems that we can only pray to God to bless the officials to use a little more and a little more brains when promulgating relevant policies, and use less butts to think about problems. Our group plays a big role in the development of the Internet in China. The vast majority of people stick to their own rules, but in the end they still end up like this. Many leaders are concerned about the issue of migrant workers. As for us, because it is an issue within the industry, ordinary people If you don’t understand what is behind the website, you will naturally not recognize us. The media will only look at the superficial appearance, follow the trend of reports and hype, and never care about the essence of the matter.
As far as the current policy is implemented for a long time, it is inevitable that China's Internet will regress and lose its vitality. It will also allow some countries to find excuses to attack our government. These are purely caused by the confused policies of a few officials. The Internet is the crystallization of human wisdom. It is a new thing and has many characteristics that are different from other industries. However, the brains of some officials are obviously not up to date with the times. If these people are allowed to manage the Internet, the consequences will be dire. It is said that now is the information age. In the information age, the Internet is one of the most basic carriers. In this regard, if we lag behind other countries, how can we compete with others in the information age. I am powerless, there is nothing I can do, I am at the mercy of others, I can only listen to the Communist International song over and over again ~~~~~ Rise up, hungry and cold slaves! Rise up, all the suffering people in the world! The blood in my heart is already boiling, we must fight for the truth And fight!
The forum chat activity did not solve the actual problem, but it reflected the current living conditions of the majority of grassroots webmasters. This network rectification campaign has caused many legitimate personal websites to be imprisoned, seriously affecting the survival of millions of grassroots webmasters. We hope that the relevant departments While cracking down on online pornography and illegal information, we can also pay attention to the living conditions of these "vulnerable groups" and provide a relaxed and harmonious Internet environment for the majority of independent entrepreneurial groups. (Text/Compiled by Mengjiang)
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